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Varekai

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 403
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: MMORPG Research Survey |
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The actual survey link can be found on the bottom of the posting
Interesting questions.............dare you answer?
1. Please select your gender
Male
Female
No answer
2. Please enter your age in years
3. Please enter your country of residence
4. Please enter your occupation
5. a. Which MMORPG do you spend most time playing?
b. How many hours per week do you spend playing MMORPGs? (Make a reasonable guess if you do not know)
c. What year did you first start playing MMORPGs (approximately) ?
6. Please give your main character name or a pseudonym if you wish:
7. Do you think you have made genuine friendships through playing MMORPGs with people you met solely in the games?
Yes
No answer
No
8. a. Are you currently in a romantic relationship?
Yes
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 8.b.
If you answered no please go to question 9.
b. Where did you initially 'meet' your current partner?
No answer
In a MMORPG
Elsewhere online (e.g. a dating site, chat room)
In 'real life'
c. How long have you been with your current partner? (Please enter years and months)
9. a. Have you ever formed a romantic relationship with someone whom you have met in a MMORPG?
Yes
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 9.b.
If you answered no please go to question 10.
b. Have you ever met up with the person you are/were in a romantic relationship with?
Yes
No answer
No
c. How far did you or your partner travel in order to meet up? (Please state in miles)
10. a. Have you ever formed a romantic relationship with someone whom you have met online but outside of a MMORPG?
Yes
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 10.b
If you answered no please go to question 11.
b. Have you ever met up with the person you are/were in a romantic relationship with?
Yes
No answer
No
c. If yes, how far did you or your partner travel in order to do so? (Please state in miles)
11. a. Have you ever been, or are you currently, attracted to another MMORPG player?
Yes
No answer
No
I have been attracted to another player in the past.
I am currently attracted to another player.
I have never been attracted to another player.
b. Are you currently in love, regardless of whether you are in a relationship or not?
No answer
Yes, I am in love with another MMORPG player.
Yes, I am in love with someone I met elsewhere online (outside of a MMORPG).
Yes, I am in love with someone I met in 'real life'.
No I am not currently in love.
12. Please read the following statements and select the extent to which you agree with them. Some of the items refer to a specific love relationship, while others refer to general attitudes and beliefs about love.
Whenever possible, answer the questions with your current partner in mind. If you are not currently dating anyone, answer the questions with your most recent partner in mind.
If you have never been in love, answer in terms of what you think your responses would most likely be.
a. My partner and I have the right physical ‘chemistry’ between us. Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
b. I feel that my partner and I were meant for each other.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
c. My partner fits my ideal standards of physical beauty/handsomeness.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
d. I believe that what my partner doesn’t know about me won’t hurt him/her.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
e. I have sometimes had to keep my partner from finding out about other lovers.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
f. My partner would get upset if he/she knew of some of the things I’ve done with other people.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
g. Our love is the best kind because it grew out of a long friendship. Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
h. Our friendship merged gradually into love over time.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
i. Our love relationship is the most satisfying because it developed from a good friendship.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
j. A main consideration in choosing my partner was how he/she would reflect on my family.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
k. An important factor in choosing my partner was whether or not he/she would be a good parent.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
l. One consideration in choosing my partner was how he/she would reflect on my career.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
m. When my partner doesn’t pay attention to me, I feel sick all over. Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
n. I cannot relax if I suspect that my partner is with someone else. Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
o. If my partner ignores me for a while, I sometimes do stupid things to try to get his/her attention back.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
p. I would rather suffer myself than let my partner suffer.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
q. I cannot be happy unless I place my partner’s happiness before my own.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
r. I am usually willing to sacrifice my own wishes to let my partner achieve his/hers.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer
13. I. Please read each description and select which style that best describes you or is closest to the way you generally are in your close relationships. a. It is easy for me to become emotionally close to others. I am comfortable depending on them and having them depend on me. I don’t worry about being alone or having others not accept me.
b. I am uncomfortable getting close to others. I want emotionally close relationships, but I find it difficult to trust others completely, or to depend on them. I worry that I will be hurt if I allow myself to become too close to others.
c. I want to be completely emotionally intimate with others, but I often find that others are reluctant to get as close as I would like. I am uncomfortable being without close relationships, but I sometimes worry that others don’t value me as much as I value them.
d. I am comfortable without close emotional relationships. It is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient, and I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me.
II. Please rate each of the following according to the extent to which you think each description corresponds to your general relationship style.
a. It is easy for me to become emotionally close to others. I am comfortable depending on them and having them depend on me. I don’t worry about being alone or having others not accept me.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
b. I am uncomfortable getting close to others. I want emotionally close relationships, but I find it difficult to trust others completely, or to depend on them. I worry that I will be hurt if I allow myself to become too close to others.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
c. I want to be completely emotionally intimate with others, but I often find that others are reluctant to get as close as I would like. I am uncomfortable being without close relationships, but I sometimes worry that others don’t value me as much as I value them.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
d. I am comfortable without close emotional relationships, it is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient, and I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
14. Please rate each of the following statements according to the extent to which you agree with them.
a. I can always manage to solve difficult problems if I try hard enough. Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
b. If someone opposes me, I can find the means and ways to get what I want.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
c. It is easy for me to stick to my aims and accomplish my goals.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
d. I am confident that I could deal efficiently with unexpected events. Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
e. Thanks to my resourcefulness, I know how to handle unforeseen situations.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
f. I can solve most problems if I invest the necessary effort.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
g. I can remain calm when facing difficulties because I can rely on my coping abilities.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
h. When I am confronted with a problem, I can usually find several solutions.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
i. If I am in trouble, I can usually think of a solution.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
j. I can usually handle whatever comes my way.
Not at all like me
Very much like me
No answer
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Reeper

Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 197 Location: The labyrinth of the soul
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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1. Please select your gender
Male X
Female
No answer
2. Please enter your age in years - 25 literal 2 mental 87 Physical
3. Please enter your country of residence - UK or any other explicit deleted terminology
4. Please enter your occupation - Whipping Boy/peon/grunt/lackey/goods-in bitch
5. a. Which MMORPG do you spend most time playing? - Vanguard of late
b. How many hours per week do you spend playing MMORPGs? (Make a reasonable guess if you do not know) - 40 if awake enough. Give or take about 40 depending on mental state.
c. What year did you first start playing MMORPGs (approximately) ? - Dunno really....guess around 4-5ish years.
6. Please give your main character name or a pseudonym if you wish: Reeper/Karite/Clayvimcore/Romero JR for mains.
7. Do you think you have made genuine friendships through playing MMORPGs with people you met solely in the games?
Yes X - people kept as friends online outweigh friends from non net fields
No answer
No
8. a. Are you currently in a romantic relationship?
Yes
No answer
No X - unless my right hand counts
If you answered yes please go to question 8.b.
If you answered no please go to question 9.
9. a. Have you ever formed a romantic relationship with someone whom you have met in a MMORPG?
Yes
No answer
No X - though I tried and failed miserably.....either they were prick teasers, or had a prick
If you answered yes please go to question 9.b.
If you answered no please go to question 10.
10. a. Have you ever formed a romantic relationship with someone whom you have met online but outside of a MMORPG?
Yes X
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 10.b
If you answered no please go to question 11.
b. Have you ever met up with the person you are/were in a romantic relationship with?
Yes X
No answer
No
c. If yes, how far did you or your partner travel in order to do so? (Please state in miles) - about 6-7 thousand miles
11. a. Have you ever been, or are you currently, attracted to another MMORPG player?
Yes
No answer
No
I have been attracted to another player in the past. X
I am currently attracted to another player.
I have never been attracted to another player.
b. Are you currently in love, regardless of whether you are in a relationship or not?
No answer
Yes, I am in love with another MMORPG player.
Yes, I am in love with someone I met elsewhere online (outside of a MMORPG).
Yes, I am in love with someone I met in 'real life'.
No I am not currently in love.
- Can barely understand the fucking word, let alone know if I'm feeling it. I'll stick with smitten with one or two.
12. Please read the following statements and select the extent to which you agree with them. Some of the items refer to a specific love relationship, while others refer to general attitudes and beliefs about love.
Whenever possible, answer the questions with your current partner in mind. If you are not currently dating anyone, answer the questions with your most recent partner in mind.
If you have never been in love, answer in terms of what you think your responses would most likely be.
a. My partner and I have the right physical ‘chemistry’ between us. Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X - I was attracted...dunno what the hell she saw though
No answer
b. I feel that my partner and I were meant for each other.
Strongly disagree X
Strongly agree X
No answer X - Kinda fate that we met, but since we broke up...can't say we were truly meant to be together if ya wanna cold answer.
c. My partner fits my ideal standards of physical beauty/handsomeness.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X - though the word standard doesn't seem right to me, to gage what we find attractive, as no one on earth can really say 100% they would only fall for one type. I mean look at Boda.....as soon as Rum's backs turned, she eyes me like a fucking horny jackal.
No answer
d. I believe that what my partner doesn’t know about me won’t hurt him/her.
Strongly disagree X
Strongly agree X
No answer - both
e. I have sometimes had to keep my partner from finding out about other lovers.
Strongly disagree X - Its harder to find lovers than have them found for me
Strongly agree
No answer
f. My partner would get upset if he/she knew of some of the things I’ve done with other people.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X - if she'd only known of mine and Romero's antics....though it's forgivable..because he's a Blythe.
No answer
g. Our love is the best kind because it grew out of a long friendship.
Strongly disagree X
Strongly agree
No answer
h. Our friendship merged gradually into love over time.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X - half n half
No answer
i. Our love relationship is the most satisfying because it developed from a good friendship.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X
No answer
j. A main consideration in choosing my partner was how he/she would reflect on my family.
Strongly disagree X - though I would be pissed if they didn't match my carpets
Strongly agree
No answer
k. An important factor in choosing my partner was whether or not he/she would be a good parent.
Strongly disagree X - hate kids so that's no factor to me.
Strongly agree
No answer
l. One consideration in choosing my partner was how he/she would reflect on my career.
Strongly disagree X - oh woa is the burden of being me...cramped between love and a warehouse.
Strongly agree
No answer
m. When my partner doesn’t pay attention to me, I feel sick all over.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer X - I'd feel lonesome but I don't think I'd throw and Emo angst spree.
n. I cannot relax if I suspect that my partner is with someone else.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X - Suffering from paranoia, self worthlessness, pessemism, cynicism etc it's kinda hard to trust anything
No answer
o. If my partner ignores me for a while, I sometimes do stupid things to try to get his/her attention back.
Strongly disagree X - though if it went on too long, I'd probably ignite their grand parents.
Strongly agree
No answer
p. I would rather suffer myself than let my partner suffer.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree X - I loathe the feeling of being an emotional burden on friend or partner...I'd rather be left to my own devices.
No answer
q. I cannot be happy unless I place my partner’s happiness before my own.
Strongly disagree X
Strongly agree X - Kinda hard to judge....their happyness is paramount, but there's always gotta be a line between your love for them, and suffering in silence.
No answer
r. I am usually willing to sacrifice my own wishes to let my partner achieve his/hers.
Strongly disagree X
Strongly agree X - see above answer
No answer
13. I. Please read each description and select which style that best describes you or is closest to the way you generally are in your close relationships. a. It is easy for me to become emotionally close to others. I am comfortable depending on them and having them depend on me. I don’t worry about being alone or having others not accept me.
b. I am uncomfortable getting close to others. I want emotionally close relationships, but I find it difficult to trust others completely, or to depend on them. I worry that I will be hurt if I allow myself to become too close to others.
c. I want to be completely emotionally intimate with others, but I often find that others are reluctant to get as close as I would like. I am uncomfortable being without close relationships, but I sometimes worry that others don’t value me as much as I value them.
d. I am comfortable without close emotional relationships. It is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient, and I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me.
II. Please rate each of the following according to the extent to which you think each description corresponds to your general relationship style.
a. It is easy for me to become emotionally close to others. I am comfortable depending on them and having them depend on me. I don’t worry about being alone or having others not accept me.
Not at all like me X - as far flung from me as possible
Very much like me
No answer
b. I am uncomfortable getting close to others. I want emotionally close relationships, but I find it difficult to trust others completely, or to depend on them. I worry that I will be hurt if I allow myself to become too close to others.
Not at all like me
Very much like me X
No answer
c. I want to be completely emotionally intimate with others, but I often find that others are reluctant to get as close as I would like. I am uncomfortable being without close relationships, but I sometimes worry that others don’t value me as much as I value them.
Not at all like me
Very much like me X
No answer
d. I am comfortable without close emotional relationships, it is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient, and I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me.
Not at all like me X
Very much like me X I'd like to feel more self sufficient and can certainly deal with myself, but normally only if I know I'd have someone to fall back on...as lonelyness is no ones lover.
No answer
14. Please rate each of the following statements according to the extent to which you agree with them.
a. I can always manage to solve difficult problems if I try hard enough.
Not at all like me X - panic or boredom set in fast.
Very much like me
No answer
b. If someone opposes me, I can find the means and ways to get what I want.
Not at all like me X - I'm spineless and can be walked over by the best of them. The only place I can assert is online, where I don't feel so vunerable.
Very much like me
No answer
c. It is easy for me to stick to my aims and accomplish my goals.
Not at all like me X
Very much like me X - depends on task at hand and context.
No answer
d. I am confident that I could deal efficiently with unexpected events.
Not at all like me X - I like to know what's what and hate changes as it makes the fragile mind more riddled with panic.
Very much like me
No answer
e. Thanks to my resourcefulness, I know how to handle unforeseen situations.
Not at all like me X
Very much like me
No answer
f. I can solve most problems if I invest the necessary effort.
Not at all like me X - though this raises a more pressing question of this type of question....surely any man given enough time and effort can achieve anything...though since this is more based on a singular fast response..I digress.
Very much like me
No answer
g. I can remain calm when facing difficulties because I can rely on my coping abilities.
Not at all like me X - imagine a squirrel on caffine in Boda's yard...and that's the mental picture of my coping skills.
Very much like me
No answer
h. When I am confronted with a problem, I can usually find several solutions.
Not at all like me
Very much like me X - Run/cry/hide/soil oneself/find nearest scape goat.........
No answer
i. If I am in trouble, I can usually think of a solution.
Not at all like me
Very much like me X - see above answer..........trouble = mental suicide.
No answer
j. I can usually handle whatever comes my way.
Not at all like me X - yanno for a so called dark Reaper figure.....I'm kinda an emotionally crippled digressed human.
Very much like me
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Anthemios

Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 30 Location: U.K.
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I must say, huge congratulations to reeper for trudging through that quagmire... my brain turned to mush just after the part where it asks for your age... haha
Whatever next? A survey for how many times you take a shit whilst playing MMO's in an attempt to discern if bowel pressure is a cause of constipation in WoW players  |
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Varekai

Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 403
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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1. Please select your gender
Male
Female WOMAN
No answer
2. Please enter your age in years 52
3. Please enter your country of residence Canada
4. Please enter your occupation dental assistant
5. a. Which MMORPG do you spend most time playing? AOC
b. How many hours per week do you spend playing MMORPGs? (Make a reasonable guess if you do not know) 8?
c. What year did you first start playing MMORPGs (approximately) ? 2001...was a complete disastor took me three years to try again
6. Please give your main character name or a pseudonym if you wish: Karabree. Varekai..LadyKara
7. Do you think you have made genuine friendships through playing MMORPGs with people you met solely in the games?
Yes x
No answer
No
8. a. Are you currently in a romantic relationship?
Yes x
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 8.b.
If you answered no please go to question 9.
b. Where did you initially 'meet' your current partner?
No answer
In a MMORPG x
Elsewhere online (e.g. a dating site, chat room) x
In 'real life' x
c. How long have you been with your current partner?
(Please enter years and months) mmmm which one?
9. a. Have you ever formed a romantic relationship with someone whom you have met in a MMORPG?
Yes x
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 9.b.
If you answered no please go to question 10.
b. Have you ever met up with the person you are/were in a romantic relationship with?
Yes x
No answer
No
c. How far did you or your partner travel in order to meet up? (Please state in miles) 700 miles
10. a. Have you ever formed a romantic relationship with someone whom you have met online but outside of a MMORPG?
Yes x
No answer
No
If you answered yes please go to question 10.b
If you answered no please go to question 11.
b. Have you ever met up with the person you are/were in a romantic relationship with?
Yes x
No answer
No
c. If yes, how far did you or your partner travel in order to do so? (Please state in miles) 700
11. a. Have you ever been, or are you currently, attracted to another MMORPG player?
Yes x
No answer
No
I have been attracted to another player in the past. x
I am currently attracted to another player. x
I have never been attracted to another player.
b. Are you currently in love, regardless of whether you are in a relationship or not?
No answer
Yes, I am in love with another MMORPG player.x
Yes, I am in love with someone I met elsewhere online (outside of a MMORPG). x
Yes, I am in love with someone I met in 'real life'.
No I am not currently in love.
12. Please read the following statements and select the extent to which you agree with them. Some of the items refer to a specific love relationship, while others refer to general attitudes and beliefs about love.
Whenever possible, answer the questions with your current partner in mind. If you are not currently dating anyone, answer the questions with your most recent partner in mind.
If you have never been in love, answer in terms of what you think your responses would most likely be.
a. My partner and I have the right physical ‘chemistry’ between us. Strongly disagree
Strongly agree x
No answer
b. I feel that my partner and I were meant for each other.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree x
No answer
c. My partner fits my ideal standards of physical beauty/handsomeness.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer x
d. I believe that what my partner doesn’t know about me won’t hurt him/her.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
e. I have sometimes had to keep my partner from finding out about other lovers.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
f. My partner would get upset if he/she knew of some of the things I’ve done with other people.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree x
No answer
g. Our love is the best kind because it grew out of a long friendship.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer x
h. Our friendship merged gradually into love over time.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree
No answer x
i. Our love relationship is the most satisfying because it developed from a good friendship.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
j. A main consideration in choosing my partner was how he/she would reflect on my family.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
k. An important factor in choosing my partner was whether or not he/she would be a good parent.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
l. One consideration in choosing my partner was how he/she would reflect on my career.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
m. When my partner doesn’t pay attention to me, I feel sick all over.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
n. I cannot relax if I suspect that my partner is with someone else.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree x
No answer
o. If my partner ignores me for a while, I sometimes do stupid things to try to get his/her attention back.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree x
No answer
p. I would rather suffer myself than let my partner suffer.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
q. I cannot be happy unless I place my partner’s happiness before my own.
Strongly disagree x
Strongly agree
No answer
r. I am usually willing to sacrifice my own wishes to let my partner achieve his/hers.
Strongly disagree
Strongly agree x
No answer
13. I. Please read each description and select which style that best describes you or is closest to the way you generally are in your close relationships.
a. It is easy for me to become emotionally close to others. nope
I am comfortable depending on them and having them depend on me.
I don’t worry about being alone or having others not accept me. yes
b. I am uncomfortable getting close to others.
I want emotionally close relationships, but I find it difficult to trust others completely, or to depend on them.x
I worry that I will be hurt if I allow myself to become too close to others.
c. I want to be completely emotionally intimate with others, but I often find that others are reluctant to get as close as I would like.x
I am uncomfortable being without close relationships, but I sometimes worry that others don’t value me as much as I value them. x
d. I am comfortable without close emotional relationships.
It is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient, and I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me. mmmmmmm
II. Please rate each of the following according to the extent to which you think each description corresponds to your general relationship style.
a. It is easy for me to become emotionally close to others. I am comfortable depending on them and having them depend on me. I don’t worry about being alone or having others not accept me.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
b. I am uncomfortable getting close to others. I want emotionally close relationships, but I find it difficult to trust others completely, or to depend on them. I worry that I will be hurt if I allow myself to become too close to others.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
c. I want to be completely emotionally intimate with others, but I often find that others are reluctant to get as close as I would like. I am uncomfortable being without close relationships, but I sometimes worry that others don’t value me as much as I value them.
Not at all like me x
Very much like me
No answer
d. I am comfortable without close emotional relationships, it is very important to me to feel independent and self-sufficient, and I prefer not to depend on others or have others depend on me.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
14. Please rate each of the following statements according to the extent to which you agree with them.
a. I can always manage to solve difficult problems if I try hard enough.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
b. If someone opposes me, I can find the means and ways to get what I want.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
c. It is easy for me to stick to my aims and accomplish my goals.
Not at all like me x
Very much like me
No answer
d. I am confident that I could deal efficiently with unexpected events.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
e. Thanks to my resourcefulness, I know how to handle unforeseen situations.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
f. I can solve most problems if I invest the necessary effort.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
g. I can remain calm when facing difficulties because I can rely on my coping abilities.
Not at all like me x
Very much like me
No answer
h. When I am confronted with a problem, I can usually find several solutions.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
i. If I am in trouble, I can usually think of a solution.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
No answer
j. I can usually handle whatever comes my way.
Not at all like me
Very much like me x
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